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I REMEMBER STORIES OF FREAKOUTS AND LONG-TERM TERROR REACTIONS FROM CHURCH SCREENINGS OF THIEF IN THE NIGHT WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT FROM DOING THE SAME TO YOUNGER KIDS WITH PASSION OF THE CHRIST? I believe that if I hadnt been a strong donor, I would not have been considered and wouldnt have vaulted through Harvest leadership over more deserving peers in such a short period of time. You see, the symbolic meaning of harvest in Scripture encompasses two main areas: God's provision for us and God's blessing for others. MORE CONCERNING THE ELDERSHIP If I understand your former function at Harvest (based on what you said in your letter) your job involved presenting and tightly controlling the Harvest narrative through media. And for keeping ones mouth shut on the way out? Why? He was a cynical grandstands and shameless self-promoter. If Dees afraid of Hall, she sure hasnt done a very good job of living it out. Because of pain. In the history of the church, which is most seductive:money, sex, or power? Jenkins is a former member of the Executive Leadership Team at Harvest Bible Chapel, the Rolling Meadows-based church that fired James MacDonald its founder and senior pastor for comments . That ship has sailed, and size is no guarantee greed and corruption will not take over even the smallest group or home church. Making vague accusations like that is true slander. I would be interested in hearing about churches your tried or are trying. Feb 14, 2022 . But, I aint Paul, so I suppose I will just have to wait and see how this sorts itself out in eternity. I once perceived this as a tragic loss, leading only to hopeless cynicism. Check out the Stronger Mens Conference In any normal group setting, the members will naturally turn to the most mature and experienced among them for direction and advice. That said, the bishops, priests, and deacons are supposed to be models of humility and servanthood. whether agnostic, atheist, muslim, hindu, buddhist, zoroastrian, wiccan, mormon, straight, lgbtq,. wolves among the sheep, earning their money, Only a public attack and a loss of financial success would drive change at Harvest., Thank you, Fisher, for the encouragement. So you and Dean screwed up. Men can be easily fooled, seduced, persuaded that they are doing Gods work, blackmailed, etc. The proof of the Jesuss death and resurrection is what allows us to have faith in the things unseen. On a side note, Im wondering if the wealth of knowledge that you and others like Jessica Hockett possesswondering if perhaps the two of you, along with a few other key people, have considered meeting and strategizing what could be some next steps going forward to help ensure that Gods people will never again be fleeced by the likes of James MacDonald, Luke MacDonald, Rick Donald, Jeff Donaldson, and, if it comes down to it, Donald Duck. Vincent: Satin has really pulled the wool over your eyes. Truth (the Word) + The Spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit) = Revealed Truth. And not many have truly repented I think. I should have rechecked my facts before commenting. Your church, at which you played a significant role, is a five alarm dumpster fire and there are thousands of actual souls who have been affected by this admitted scandal. MacDonald may join him next year on the Stronger Men circuit. Yowzers, you have me stumped. This cancer is about to metastasize across the U.S. and ALL of the dirt needs to be made public for the safety and spiritual well-being of the masses. How does he know that? Bad decisions lead to pain. Let the truth flow. Nice job. I can completely understand why Dee wouldnt want people here to be dragging stuff out and speculating about a teenage boy. ex HCA Staff: Yikes! You also have no idea what else is happening. This helped to hit the revenue target and qualify for Executive bonuses.. We believe that disciples of Jesus profess that He is Lord, practice His Ways, and persevere in both their profession and practice. The company typically gets sick and diessometimes quickly and sometimes suddenlybut it dies. where leaders humbly look around for those whom they can help, trying to be the last, not the first, putting their reputations, careers, and lives on the line if necessary Then I read actual instructions on the veneration of Elders as of Christ himself. About how you think there is something wrong with you because you dont feel the same things that they do, and soon you come to believe that you are defective or damaged goods. Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: So, so much we dont know. He should never again have a say in how people live their lives. Milholland did this exact same thing at his former church, Hope Church in Memphis. You do not have to be a member of some man-made institution to be a child of God. apostle-schmapostle. perhaps the other side of this coin can be the joy and happiness of discovering the magnificence of fellow human beings outside the context of christian culture. Howard Hughes. You are one of the reasons I keep coming back. Dallas Jenkins: It was given to the elders two months ago. Was it released or leaked? Personally I do not want to create that kind of hardship for the surviving relatives of those who made my youth group experience a nightmare. Christian celebrities would have no stage to perform on if they didnt have an audience willing to buy tickets. dee: Its like dj vu all over again. -Yogi Berra, When you come to a fork in the road, take it. -Yogi Berra. That being said, I would think there is great value in making this public: as a warning for potential future victims of James MacDonald. Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: Driscolls board is down to him as President and director, Jimmy Evans and Randall Taylor (who I believe is an attorney). That set-up is far from the Biblical model of doing church and is a recipe for disaster, especially when it reaches mega-status. Culty. Pathetic at best. As my friend says, suck it up buttercup., Max: I believe if Jesus was here today, He would be sitting around the campfire drinking beer with the boys!, In all likelihood, He probably would be. . The post you refer to is maybe one of two that she didnt allow comments. For a son dishonors his father, a daughter rises up against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a mans enemies are the members of his own household. i agree, Paul has worthy things to say that are beneficial. Thems shootin words in these parts (Christianville), maam. all of this is deeply regrettable. really, what im saying is i think we can hold Paul and his comments loosely, just as we hold what others say loosely. There were kindergarten through 5th graders AND many of us parents / employees, who did not know it was going to be shown. Guys like you have no fear of God, and this is how this mess happened in the first place. (Many self-claimed Reformed do not really know or embrace the God their theology demands, so its not an issue.) Im holding out hope that my faith in God will survive, but truth be told, some days that seems uncertain as well (and save yourself the time writing me about how my faith must not have been that deep if indeed Im struggling with God and Jesus). Someone should also dig into the incident regarding the video of Mel Gibsons Passion of the Christ that was shown to HCA ELEMENTARY school children without any warning or notice to parents in the first year of the schools history during Holy Week. It just doesnt seem to be relevant (at least to me) to anything that this blogs about. Runnin bear dove in the water, little white dove did the same John: I was asked to consider serving on the elder board there three days before I leftand the topic of 1Tim 3 wasnt brought up. THis man should never be in a position of authority again, and even less in one of spiritual authority (whatever that may mean). If a familys personal pain about a very private matter doesnt fit that category, I dont know what would. I hope somebody has kept good documentation somewhere of all such dealings that could be produced as evidence. Wartburgers, perhaps they are coming to a church near you! I second that. You are loved!. Dallas, you have a lot to learn about life, and perhaps a lot to learn about the One Who spoke of whispers in the inner rooms being shouted from rooftops. Vincent, TWW has relayed first hand knowledge about JMac from his elders and personal assistant to the church at large, lest he try to maneuver his way into another corner of Christendom. Its true, though, this is kind of an agonized therapy for me, and I am sincere. It was given to the elders two months ago. Indeed. It was given to the elders two months ago. I do apologize to Dallas, and to anyone I may have misled with my faulty information. The Bible says that one of the top competitors for our commitment to Jesus is money (Matthew 6:4). Or maybe its the era of the Judges, when every man did what was right in his own sight.. The following is an extract from LookinguntoJesus.net, Presbuterous, Episkopos & Poimen Ive seen the lightning flashing, Then, you proceeded to brag on social media about how you werent releasing your full statement and had convinced other men with statements to do the same. I share this for all who, like me, are overcome with new sadness, pain and loss amidst the HBC, Willow, Catholic church, ECFA, SBC, GFA, etc. 5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. I truly believe God provides the grace for elders to walk in the attributes in 1Tim 3but if a church isnt even looking at those thingsbut rather recommends a person onto an elder board because he/she is strategic or a fundraiser or a CEO or a finance person or a large donor (or whatever nonsensical qualification they THINK they need)this is the departure that I think God says no to. Samuel Conner: Be imitators of God, as dearly loved children, and live a life of love, even as Christ loved us and gave Himself for us. TX and is setting up his own consulting firm so he can go to thousands of churches setting up secret ways for enriching the head pastors. Therefore, churches today need to endeavour to attain a point where they are able to have elders. They began by gathering in an unused TV studio. you are a very comforting presence here, Max. Spend a moment praying to God before you begin reading. But how long, under the sort of behavior he and others depict, can one be excused for overlooking the facts? And I doubt it was simply losing their job, as many of them voluntarily left. Good analogy, since Vietnamese restaurants tend to be small and committed to authenticity, without extorting the customer. The setup of elder rule is, in effect, completely unaccountable rule-by-crony. Its been about the cash for the last 20 years! In case this has escaped your awareness, most folks on TWW have experienced abuse in churches. Also such leaders do have authority (God-given). While the vast majority of pastors and churches can be trusted, disciples who have experienced a betrayal of trust have become sobered by the thought of joining another church. The harm is already done. Im told love covers over a multitude of sins. Lowlandseer: The NT writers frequently warn that false teachers, wolves, charlatans will enter the church to lead people astray; others are already there and will eventually show their true colours. I am interested in seeing what TWW readers will pull out if Jenkins letter. HBC Youth Bible Study. That brings back a memory I havent thought about for years. One can attempt to form a very egalitarian group where no one is in charge, but it only works until a dysfunctional person makes a power grab. Consider the following Scriptures: And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors [POIMEN] and teachers (Ephesians 4:11). Bill Hybels, miracle seeker-driven leader, stands credibly accused of sexual harassment and molestation. 3/1/2023 - 7:00pm-8:00pm. LLS, honest question in all of these elder rule setups Ive ever seen, there is no mechanism at all for pew peons to do as you note and hold elders accountable for anything. We see it mentioned on a few occasions in Scripture where elders were appointed in every city. Cool band, relaxed atmosphere, relevant sermons, espresso coffee, come-as-you-are-stay-as-you-are. FOR DALLAS JENKINS, telling stories comes naturally. First was Willow Creek Community Church and lead pastor, Bill Hybels. with or without religious trappings. dee: You sound like an attorney who just sent me a letter stating that I posted false statements by a victim. Max:in their heart of hearts they dont really give a big hoot about reading the precious words in red, let alone the rest of Scripture.I dont see the point in saying that you are a Christ-follower if you dont get to know Him through reading His Word. elastigirl: why does it matter what Paul thinks? I dont blame the Thompsons. These execs like CFO Fred Adams and COO Scott Milholland going into church consulting are the most dangerous. It doesnt even look vibrant anymore. And this being heard is not merely some desire for gossip or vengeance, but a desire to confront evil and protect the rest of the naive flock from being manipulated, abused and otherwise taken advantage of. We challenge students to develop strong academic skills and provide opportunities to become a well-rounded person through participation . hospitable Its time for all these leaders to stop whining as if they were the victims and demonstrate a genuine show of sackcloth and ashes before the masses they deceived the real victims who must now live with being tithe-paying participants in this scam against Holy God. Gods blessings to you. The official anniversary date was September 18, 2018. holding fast the faithful word You will come closer to finding the genuine in third-world countries where the persecuted church resides. it must be protected. ex HCA Staff: Check her Twitter. His newest outreach into the community is that he will be partnering with a music minister from another local church and they are starting a church service in a bar on Sunday evenings. First question: when was this letter written and sent? The bear was later seen using the gun to defend itself against local mice and rabbits., PASTOR has to Keep Up With The (Paige) Pattersons, you know. I am not suggesting that this is or is not the way Jesus intended for his church. Dallas Jenkins: There have been many people demanding our statements be made public, and now that they are, are rejoicing in that, 1 Corinthians 13:6 They deliberately employ a faulty theology to ensnare and use others for their own ends. Those types rarely think of anyone but themselves. Years later, the church long ago destroyed by heavy abuse and the former members scattered, a number of them atheists today, that drama pastor is now into the New Age. I am watching the SBC be accused of following in the footsteps of the pedophile priests of the Catholic Church. i mean, why does it matter, any more than what elastigirl thinks, or what Max thinks, or what any of the other cast characters thinks? I guess its all a matter of perspective. We must put our unreserved trust in God alone, and to at least some degree view all men even our most trusted loved ones by their fruits. 5G, Closer Campaign. All we get is CYA, after the fact, trying to make the best of whats already been leaked. Harvest Bible Chapel Buffalo 135 subscribers Everything from The Chosen, Harvest Bible Chapel, 5am Writing, and more! This is not a widely understood concept, nor do many consider it at all. No more law-keeping. You wanted your letter to remain in the dark and hoped that no one would know of your hidden statement. In most of these cases, thats true because the red flags were there. Apparently DJ knew these things and witnessed these things, but did nothing about these things. You dont even have to be a tyrant to fall for that scheme of the devil. Of course, the big jump you and those who make such claims make is from a shepherd/overseer/elder who is to look after, protect and provide for the flock to a paid, authoritarian ruler. Most of those Ive heard and experienced who tout elder-rule polity will say that this passage says anything but pew peons having any say in elder or pastor selection and/or accountability. Hard to imagine that they would ever voluntarily fission into smaller groups. Heres hoping quotes work the same here as many other onlline sites. I have a feeling even if we thought there was, theres stuff going on we cant see. elastigirl: Honest question: why does it matter what Paul thinks? Everything after those three paragraphs is my comment. Like they are so far in and so much of their identity comes from being part of the group that the thought of just leaving would be like jumping off of a cliff? Unfortunately, the American church is such a mess that it provides sufficient wiggle room for charlatans to launch another ministry and drag the precious name of Christ through the streets again. Harvest Bible Church is a non-denominational, non-charismatic, evangelical Protestant church located in Northwest Houston in the Cypress community. No more indulgences. Didnt Dallas or is there another Jenkins son? Our staff and volunteer leaders cant wait to welcome your kids to our safe, secure, age-appropriate program. These churches treat women so badly, but promise men all sorts of things (that will probably never happen) to keep the men coming. Sadly, I have yet to see even one of these elders or executive staff members repent in a productive, redemptive manner. Concerned for the vulnerable animals safety, he left his own gun by its side. You worked for Us. No more sin sacrifices. Let him call for the elders [PRESBUTEROS] of the church, and let them pray over him (James 5:14). The time for half measures is over. True. The lawsuit also claims that beginning in 2018, a pastor at one of Harvest's campuses began working with a "disgruntled" former Harvest worker, filmmaker Dallas Jenkins, to solicit letters. Harvest Bible Chapel began meeting the Rolling Meadows High School building. Every man has his price, or a guy like me couldnt exist. Q: Why do narcissists go to seminary? Thats it! There is no believing without proof. This statement just doesnt sound much like what Jesus talked to the twelve about. +++++++++++++++++++++. Founded in 1988, it has grown to seven campuses in the Chicago metropolitan area. Hang on. . TS00: Why you gotta be so mean? Taylor Swift. . If people develop So theyll speak of doin church together, or kingdom life, or some such nonsense. James MacDonald will be starting a new ministry. Ive stepped inside a church once in the last three years; we were out of town visiting friends, and they invited us, and my wife looked at me like Please, honey, just this one time, lets not make a scene. So I went along and it felt something like being in the car, trying to teach my teenager how to drivewhite knuckles. sober-minded God has shown great favor and grace to Harvest Bible Chapel, allowing us to plant churches, host in thriving mens, womens events, and student gatherings, and creating ministries centering around outreach in our communities. We share the common goal of wanting the abuse to stop. Only if this does not work are you to turn him away as a unbeliever. 7,646 were here. That community is you all, for whom I am so grateful! As of 2020, they now gather as City Line Church. Youre barking your wares to a wised-up crowd, and unlikely to terrify many here. Time and again in these situations, people who were involved exclaim about how God was working and God was doing things! I thought it myself in the situation I was part of, years ago. That was 30 years ago and it proved to be true. I was at a Lenten service and helping with confirmation this evening. Yet another reason why the financial transparency laws for religious non-profit entities needs to change. How would any of these men, with limited real life educations and skills, replace the six or seven figure incomes they were receiving, when you add in the benefits? Why is he going public six years later? In fact, not saying something wouldve been considered enabling and a betrayal of those being hurt.. Keep tuning in to TWW. My family faced a similar situation years ago. Almighty God himself being murdered by a corrupt religious cabal in collusion with the Roman military. Id say largely because the leaders themselves have been told to believe this. ++++++++++++++++++++. That, in my humble, fallible opinion, explains much of the evil that has taken place in this world. And particularly sad to see younger church folks not benefiting from the council of senior saints. If you dont get why your letter was leaked and why people are upset, I would say youre isolated and you need to take the blinders off. Cool bands, espresso coffee, relevant sermons, fun and fellowship, etc. He was also involved with setting up secret retirement accounts and encouraging outrageous T&E expenditures as a way of making himself invaluable to James. With 17+ degree options, we have something for everyone. SiteSeer: I see nothing denoting an office. It seems like to me that in a group of people, these things sort themselves out without anyone declaring it to be a position and appointing people to it. If not, he served as an elder when he wasnt one and we call that a fraud, And there were boatloads of frauds on those elder boards, How do I know? We rejoice in Gods faithfulness to us the first 30 years! Faith Driven Team September 6, 2021 Bio, Christian investor, Voice. Elsewhere on this thread I talked about a situation where itd be cruel imo to air public matters. POIMEN, is translated to English as either pastor or shepherd. I only point out that the historical evidence is not what we protestants want it to be. They will now export it across the US. He is already in the process of trying to reboot his digital ministry (WITW)and is romancing wealthy donors in Naples, FL from the $1.2M home in Naples that Harvest rented for him. For me I choose to pray and let God work, he never ceases to amaze especially when he answers prayer. Harvest Christian Fellowship is a megachurch in Riverside, California. That included giving James $20K-$30K a MONTH to spend just on T&E. I tend to trust her judgment here. He was a cynical grandstands and shameless self-promoter. Or are we to believe he just held back on refuting all this defamation out of a righteous desire to turn the other cheek? A person who thinks they are qualified, is someone who may need to take some time to discern whether thats true. As you think, consider the following passages of Scripture: From Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called for the elders [PRESBUTEROS] of the churchTherefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers [EPISKOPOS], to shepherd [POIMEN] the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 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