She bathed the dog in it and used in spray bottle as insect deterrent. our first family dog was a red he grew up with my 3 boys he was a loyal campaign and friend to them. Cleo spoilt me because of her oober intelligence so went for a Weimaraner next Emma was bright but no Cleo! Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a895c028ab54c6c138d816584ff46fb6" );document.getElementById("c0a37e25a6").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Hi, Im Jaki the creator of Dobermans Den. I had a white male dobermen pinscher. Look at what we did to the. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. Oversize in both the US and in Europe. Liberal, if someone wants a well bred full bred fog with a health history, family history He looked kind of like a ghost dog. I just lost my best friend to pheochromocytom had him for almost 9 years. Just one opinion. Thanks! When the auto-complete results are available, use the up and down arrows to review and Enter to select. My mom is disabled as well with mobility issues. My vet at the time gave me something to bath Blue in. I have a male isabella named Apollo and a femal black and tan named annie we are expecting puppies any day now!! if there is something wrong with it, its not because of its color. Our Doberman was the Black/Tan type. Some people love dobermans and only want a doberman. We do limit her time in the sun as you would with any fair skin mammals, like me. The term "Doberman Pinscher" is primarily used in the United States and Canada while "Doberman" is used in the rest of the world. No one has had all the albinos dna tracked to see. umm yes albinos can have blue eyes because the lack of pigmentation leads the iris to look opaque, therefore a pale icy blue. was a shock and has been a difficult loss. Please learn proper grammar. I just wish that humans would stop trying to breed dogs for what they think they should be and spoil the breeds! Shes sweet and gentle and no problems so far (other than too much love licks). Thank You!! Dorgi: Doberman x Corgi. It is seen as inhumane to the dog due to the potential for serious health concerns. Many people crave having cute and adorable healthy pets. So glad you came along. Btw the title says The 5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid but the arcticle says that there is TWO we should avoid. A post shared by Mazikeen Zenobia (@mazetherotterman_) 2. based on what color genes are dominant). I am a dark skinned person i hve stomach problems, light sensitivity, and sometimes i dont behave like i should.should i be assisted with death because of it? No one has to be put down anymore these days. Wrong!! I found that message not helpful in the least, being a person just looking for information on a dog I like. He does things that make me laugh all of the time. Steve H. Your Cleo sounds like our Athana who was an exceptional dog. I know they are rated as the 5th most intelligent breed, but IMHO our Dobbie was simply the most intelligent dog we owned. If someone wants a white dog there are better white breeds to choose from. I passed my Fawn off as a Weimie for most of his 13 years. In Sep 2018 we adopted Katie. The two girls together are amazing. Actually, any real research will show that white Dobermans are not albino. I resently found a Doberman pup for a friend a little red bitch. Touch device users can explore by touch or with swipe gestures. Both my Black/rust girl, Phoenix and Steele get a fleece lined coat in the Winter. This whole thread disgusts/disappoints me. if those of you who preach about the health, etc of the whites, why dont yuo get updated material, scientific material, and quit making yourself look so foolish. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. People that breed white dobermans are disgusting & the people who are buying them are too! The vet could not give me any reason not to keep the puppies or give them away to people who might want or even to sale the puppies. As far as Im concerned they are the best all around breed you can get. The female is, and I love this dog so do not think I am biased, very stupid. Every time she and I go walking, I get compliments about her colour and how beautiful she is! Very few Dobes carry the recessive white, and fewer carry the gene close enough to override and produce. Some years ago, I met a doberman who was glossy black with bright yellow where you would normally see the rust color. Below you can see the traditional black and tan Doberman color alongside a red Doberman. oh and Dobermans are the best dogs in the world . This is proved by a book written back in 1929 and one in 1939 by two different authorities on the breed. doberman pinscher puppy. Having said all this, if you do find a white Doberman rescue dog or a white Doberman from a breeder with a good reputation, who does health testing, please give them a chance. I have never been owned by a White, but Ive been blessed to know several, very, very well. This lasted all day as we sit outside. We are experienced owners have had two, and both our sons have dobermans in their households. As long as you do,thats all that matters. Doberman is a brilliant dog with any color and ears and if you want to have companion for you and guard for your children take doberman. I am capable of finding a good breeder as I have a history with AKC and the breeders. Additionally, Alaska just has to many kinds of cultures in the small parts that are accessible to support humans in numbers to have to embrace racial beliefs . He loves the nieghborhood kids and all of the visitors that come into the house but he is always on guard when strangers come around. (If the shoe fits). both allels are white you get a white puppy (25% chance). So quality educated Doberman breeders avoid propagating them. America could be the same way if we stop putting the so called rights of animal abusers above the health and safety of animals. https://www.sfspca.org/adoptions/pet-details/41201970. It almost kllled my dog and I was not told what to watch out for..Needless to say she and my Mom take the same pill, lucky for me. I have a 3 month old fawn named Duchess. While they do typically have high intelligence, friendly disposition, and minimal health issues, the opposite is also fairly common. She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. The difference is obvious at first glance, but on careful study, you will see how much of the original Doberman Pinscher has been deleted from its current U.S. counterparts. Its done that to me too. To do otherwise is just plain selfish. Ive owned Dobermans over the years. Their was life again in our house instead of tears and grieving. She is the best dog that I have ever owned. It isnt expensive (~ $25 for puppy, young and adult and ~ $50 for seniors per month ). Thanks. However, for a Doberman Pinscher puppy with top breed lines and a superior pedigree, you may need to pay between $3,500 and $5,000. Not legal there. plus i want to keep him as happy as i can once i get one. Im considering getting a Dobie. I also belive that dobermans that carry the albino trait should not be bred even if they are a champion. Known ailments associated with the Doberman (Von Willebrands Disease, Wobbles, Hip-Dysplasia) come from careless breeding. Anyone who tries to sell an Albino Doberman has an inferrior breeding program, they are culls. CASH!! (Unless of course you live on Mars, and I do take that as a serious possibility.) Sorry Evilboo all of that was intended for TexasJul. Youre a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. The youngest was 13 . , I have grown to love the Dobmerman due to their intelligence, loyalty and gorgeous looks. Beautifully said. A beautiful White female Doberman placed in the last DPCA Nationals. Stop. Why would someone breed for this on purpose???? Do your research and stop trying to bad mouth the white dobies. I own a white Dobie and shes the best dog I have ever had. Also there are some white champions in schutzhund as well as obedience and agility course do your research like i said, Ok to all the white haters DO YOUR RESEARCH! one black and one white, just like the parents (50% chance this has twice the chance that the both-black or the both-white) they are carriers, their white gene allel is hidden, 3.) Your comment is awaiting moderation. Not breeding them is a ridiculous notion as purebreds do have their uses (hounds are bred for hunting and they excel at it. An owner of an Albino should realize that they need to spay or neuter the animal as soon as possible. Amen to that. Children can be unknowingly mean to a dog and a dog does have a right to leave the area or protect itself it it is being abused. If you are on Facebook I run a doberman re home and rescue group. These black Dobermans are not part of the official standard for the breed. That is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries and a mans testicles without their consent. Okay , all of a sudden white/partial albino have popped up and Oh My God it must be a new line of dobs? Every bit as PERFECT as any other color expression of our beloved Doberman Pinschers. And I say albino because it is not a colour it is the complete opposite a lack of colour I would never entertain a breeder of the albino Doberman and those breeders who describe the dog as rare and desirable are idiots that have no interest in healthy dogs just lining their pockets it makes me feel sick. So what if it was, so what if all breeds came about that way? Due to this, white Dobermans experience many issues that their normal colored siblings wouldnt, including extremely UV sensitive skin, early on set glaucoma, lapsed patellas, aggression, and more. Black people have higher rates of high blood pressure and are more likely than whites to have vitamin D shortages in northern hemispheres because their skin is so dark that they dont manufacture enough of it in northern countries. We have tried adopting from rescues, which did not work, as they have issues due to abuse. I have a white female Doberman and she is the best dog in the world she is good with my kids and has no health problems at all shes fun and loving and gets along with any dog she even loves the cat next door and her best friend is a one year old pit named Chico I love all Dobermans they are the best dogs and loyal to there most inner core. He is a great dog and slowly filling DINOs paw prints. The local shelter has several purebred dobies waiting to be adopted right now. Porsche had an echocardiogram and her heart murmur was determined to be less than minor. I recently purchased a melanistic all black doberman from a reputable breeder and in conversation with her about the different colors of dobermans, she said that the cream ones are not albino at all. Either due to crafty paper work practices or AKC slip ups . Howdy. Cause I promise not everyone loves your children. How ignorant is this. She is a hand full and always wants too be by your side! The white puppies are not a MUTATION GENE that has never been proven and is a lie. Joanne, I rescued a White Dobie about a year and a half ago and in December had a tumor removed from his eyelid and a few from his lip that were cancer. Hes the sweetest dog ever! Its ignorance of the worst kind. Over crowding in shelters is a human made problem that will not end in YOUR life time, so your whining is pathetic and futile. Religious bashing is rude. The breeding is the culprit of the problems a white may have. This socialization needs to continue even after puppy-hood on a consistent basis. The blue Doberman is a dilute of black. It saved my life TWICE! Im sorry your new puppy has a heart murmur!! Spaying/neuterining is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries or a mans testicles without their permission.would you like for your doctor to do this to you simply because he didnt think you should have children? He had a very nice temperament also. They were individuals but at the same time each of them had the endearing ways of the Doberman breed. However, she is overly friendly with EVERYONE and very healthy. After 2 surgeries to try to give him the best future, the leg didnt grow as long as his other 3! So see miller to make my point your message was not only informationless to me and everyone else, it was also showing how much of a dog lover you are not,If you were you would be giving information on the health issues and such like everyone else. I agree with you and on a recent visit to the vet with our new rescue he was pleased to see that he was 2 yrs old before neutering (we have no choice when getting a rescue) because he said recent studies showed a 15% reduction in cancers if neutered at 2 years AS COMPARED TO NEUTERING AS A PUPPY). When my dad walked away, my mom firmly but calmly told him to cut that barking out, and he stopped barking, sat down and wagged his little tail at her. and please stop guilt trapping people into picking a shelter pet. They were called straw color, yellow and dirty. White Doberman Punchers have NEVER been proven to be albino, and yes, white dobes can be show dogs in some countries, and, yes, there have been white champions, regardless of temperament. I have to disagree about additional health problems with the white/cream. And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total (only one of my mutts came from the pound. All of this snobbery over an inbred animal is simply ridiculous. The answer, Anything and everything! From cleaning solvents to toxins such as rat poison. Litter Size. If you regularly have visitors over to the house, this should do. I happened to find her on Craigslist and have been in contact with the owner who is going thru some hard time divorce etc and is moving and not able to take Trinity with her.. Thankful of it! I have one of every colour and i dont see the difference they play the same, love the same, eat the same, and bark the same. These are black Dobermans without the usual rust color markings. My oldest Cream/white is almost 12. It is very cruel to spay or neuter pets. When I lost her to cancer, I never got another one. A red female puppy this time. their temperament/health/intelligence is a little more than average of all the dobes i have owned. What I find truly aweful about this entire string of comments to dates back to July of 2008 is the fact that there is so much venom and passion about the z factor dobies but its all a senseless argument. People expressed their hateful opinions here and actual owners mostly said that they have healthy white Dobermans. My name is Dawn Velez. PS He is very smart and attentive. Its not fair to the animals first and foremost. So for example, the sunlight affecting them is a fact, it is much more than causing them to squint or blink a lot. If a red dog has one partial albinism gene, it becomes isabella/fawn. Evilboo..you are one mature young ladyrespect. to begin with, all breeders regardless of the creature they breed should start thinking about what they do: the modify little helpless lifes and cause much suffering. A lot of people dont realize, a certain amount of in-breeding is done all the time, with every breed of dog (or cat, horse, cow, etc) when producing and bettering a specified BREED. I breed Dobermans. They are very protective and loyal. Wow, great to hear. skin, stomach, ear, breathing etc? To each his own on color, if it floats your boat and you love that guy or gal go for it. You have the attitude of a twelve year old girl, though I would like to think you are older. I have had three remake black and rust. In the meanwhile we put aside all our reservation about getting a puppy. Other than that and some skin issues (common) she is beautiful and healthy. HOWEVER I have also read a vast number of reports from people who claim to have skin, eye, stomach, and bone issues with their whites. We have a Fawn Dobie that descended from a white dobie. Isnt that enough ?. Study and actually thoroughly read what you find. I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. .. I have a fawn and hes the best thing in my life. Most people really dont know how intelligent Dobermans are , they learn so fast that it is sometime frighten. Propaganda to scare people from breeding, even owning, a White or Cream Colored Dobe. i will admit he does squent in direct sunlight but so does every human being. It is not for betterment of the breed, for confirmation or for the show ring because they are not the breed standard. Youre a FUCKING BOZO!!!! Whites live longer and have less health issues because breeders have to breed them for health and think about what they are doing. THEY WERE GORGEOUS DOGS WITH A UNIQUE COLOR FOUND IN A RECESSIVE GENE! And the long haired dachshund at the pet store. its not that they are bad dogs yall need to get off your high horses just understand that as far as breed standard is concerned they are frowned upon My parents breed him with a rusty female doberman with tan markings who was not from the same bloodline as Logan and half of eights puppies were white the other half rusty-colored. How fawns and the albinos are getting so popular idk because they are the ones with all the health problems. The majority of the American GSDs are bred with such a slope on their hindquarters they literally run on their hocks. 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